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Tobes
29-10-2003, 02:19 PM
please vote if you are or arent making music,,,, bo
i do but have been lazy lately!Edited by: Tobes
Oracle
29-10-2003, 02:29 PM
yep..im there. Getting better aswell which is a good sign.....working on some collaboration material with a good mate (Foki) at the mo which is proving really good....bouncing ideas of each other is the way to go...really productive way of doing things.
Soon as we have something finished i'll see about getting it posted up on the FTP for reviews etc
sh*t....been saying that for a while now though http://www.itstooloud.com/smileys/smiley5.gif
need to get something finished pronto!
Most def....
http://www.itstooloud.com/smileys/smiley14.gif
jcat
Jamin
29-10-2003, 04:01 PM
just for fun but you never no one day i may accidently make something amazing, well thats the dream anyway.
But surely what ever you make you must have liked at some point otherwise it would never make it past being just an idea. I know i have started about 50 times more tunes than i have even come close to finishing.
Or at least that is the way i think maybe these huge record lables have much lower standards than i do, or they are just greedy buggers!!!
DJ Dazzler
29-10-2003, 08:02 PM
Tunes Tunes and more tunes!!!!!!!:smiley2::smiley2::smiley2::smiley2::s miley2::smiley2::smiley2::smiley2::smiley2::smiley 2:
I just cant get enough of reason2.5 :smiley1::smiley1::smiley1::smiley1::smiley1::smil ey1::smiley1:
forshay
30-10-2003, 09:34 PM
Love making beats, but been so busy lately. gotta make some space for some sessions, will get some dnb posted up here soon.:smiley2:
somone post some tracks, would love to hear.
DJ Dazzler
31-10-2003, 05:09 AM
Uploadin sound kool but like oracle i have to finish sumthing first......lol:smiley1:
Lazarus
31-10-2003, 11:21 AM
Its only properly finished when its available to buy...
Don't worry about having loads of tunes that aren't finished...its good as when you are happy with your technique and production style or equipment you can quickly go back finish them and have a huge back catalogue...
Don't start at the begining...certain kinds of music are rythmn based...and as such the rythmn is the hardest thing to get right, finding a beginning and end is a peice of piss compared to getting the general vibe...
forshay
31-10-2003, 11:40 AM
yeah, i go for a good bass line, and wrap a beat around that, not always the way to do it, but gets the important part of the tune established.
If something turns out sh*t, then keep the best bits and try again. you dont have to 'throw away' and forget.
Oracle
31-10-2003, 01:06 PM
each to their own on the creative tipi think...different folks have different ways of doing things and its all about finding what works for you innit. I nearly always end up getting the main bulk or middle of a tune together first with everything going off at once....then start stripping it down and arranging. Generally though its the beats first...then a melody line and then the B line in after that. Like to experiment also and start tunes off in different ways...works sometime and not others!
Lazarus
31-10-2003, 01:11 PM
I reckon make a load of beats/synth patterns/wicked samplesif you haven't got much time to work on stuff properly...then when you've got a bit time on your hands (some leave or something like going back to uni) make some tunes from your back catalogue...
Better to have 64 rolling bars than a mediocre beginning, predictable breakdown and repetative samples...
I feel there are three very seperate processes when producing dnb...
Writing
Engineering
Mixing and Mastering
These all require different outlooks and different parts of your brain...
We have all heard a well mixed but boring tune as the producer is obsessed with that stage and not spending enough time writing...conversely we have all heard a tune with some promise that has not been mixed down very well...
If I fall into either catogary it would be the latter...http://www.itstooloud.com/webwiz/smileys/smiley6.gifEdited by: Lazarus
Tobes
31-10-2003, 01:41 PM
the best way to start making tracks is toset your sequencer to loop maybe 4 bars or 8, then just keep building tracks while the sequencer is looping, hopefully you will end up with a lot of tracks looping, when you have sh*t loads of different tracks that sound good together, or with some muted and some switched on, you will be ready to start the arrangement, but remember your always better making the tracks before the putting together the arrangement, of course different folks different strokes but from all the people i know who make music, which is quite a lot, thats always the way we start to build tracks.
Lazarus
31-10-2003, 01:44 PM
That sounds like what I do Tobes...build a rythmn
Jamin always slates me for not finishing things off, but I am waiting for better equipment before finalising a number of tunes....
Have you uploaded any of your tunes yet tobes?
Jamin
31-10-2003, 02:45 PM
I just get anoyed that i never get to hear any your finished products mate thats all. I get little 20 sec snipits it just keaves me wanting more!!!!
Oracle
31-10-2003, 03:06 PM
yeah Laz.....i fall into that category to, tend to bang out plenty of ideas but not so experienced on the engineering/mastering side...its all a learning curve i suppose though eh?
anyway...next piece of kit for me on the agenda is defo and Emu E6400......time to inject some hardware action i reckon http://www.itstooloud.com/smileys/smiley23.gif
Tobes
31-10-2003, 03:26 PM
are you sure its an emu e6400 you want, you ever used one? you can come over to mine one day and have a go with mine man, all you got to do is bring some weed:smiley2:
try before you buy
and i have to say to all of you that making excises about not finishing tracks will not help finish any, so come on, get back in the studio.
and i am about to upload a load of tracks laz, i uploaded one youve heard already as a test on my site, but i got some f**king stupid admin error now that i need to fixhttp://www.itstooloud.com/smileys/smiley19.gif
yeah Laz.....i fall into that category to, tend to bang out plenty of ideas but not so experienced on the engineering/mastering side...its all a learning curve i suppose though eh?
anyway...next piece of kit for me on the agenda is defo and Emu E6400......time to inject some hardware action i reckon http://www.itstooloud.com/smileys/smiley23.gif
Hmmm, unless you're going to get something a bit different like an MCP I would steer clear of hardware samplers. Little screens, quirky os, separate storage on dodgy zip disks, and other stuff on the hardware makes the software samplers much more usable IMHO,hardware still has it's place but unless you really have some specific reason (like it's particular sound or something) I'd steer clear.
Admittedly I'm still using my Emu for live work because it's very stable (compared to a computer), but for studio use I don't get it out at all.
Just my opinion...
Checking out Tobes Emu is definitely a good idea before you buy.
Cheers,
jcat
Edited by: jcat
Tobes
31-10-2003, 03:54 PM
There is a major difference to software samplers and hardware, and thats the sound, slip a beat through a filter with an emu and you get that classic sound, try that with a software sampler and you go nowhere near it, although i have been using my Logic sampler more lately, its more out of laziness and conveniance, cos the emu's filters are sweet, but like jcat says, you have to send it all to the sampler and save it all on zip disk which is a pain in the ass, never understood why you cant save directly onyo a pc hard drive, thats a samplers major flaw.
but most deffinately try before you buy
yeah Laz.....i fall into that category to, tend to bang out plenty of ideas but not so experienced on the engineering/mastering side...its all a learning curve i suppose though eh?
anyway...next piece of kit for me on the agenda is defo and Emu E6400......time to inject some hardware action i reckon http://www.itstooloud.com/smileys/smiley23.gif
Hmmm, unless you're going to get something a bit different like an MCP I would steer clear of hardware samplers. Little screens, quirky os, separate storage on dodgy zip disks, and other stuff on the hardware makes the software samplers much more usable IMHO,hardware still has it's place but unless you really have some specific reason (like it's particular sound or something) I'd steer clear.
Admittedly I'm still using my Emu for live work because it's very stable (compared to a computer), but for studio use I don't get it out at all.
Just my opinion...
Checking out Tobes Emu is definitely a good idea before you buy.
Cheers,
jcat
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